Testimonial

When I heard there was a thousand yard range in Ohio I couldn’t wait to find it. After finding Thunder Valley Precision online I called Tom Sarver, he invited me up to shoot one of their friendly matches. So I went and never hit a single target, but I was hooked. The groundhog rifle was not set up for this kind of shooting so I knew there had to be some changes. Within two week I had a new 308 and was working up a load. I went back for the last couple matches of the season and hit some targets.

When spring arrived I was ready to go, I drove 2 hours and 15 minutes twice a month all summer long. I did very well with my factory rifle but was ready to take the next step, a custom rifle. Tom was very helpful in caliber selection and discussing different options. When all the decisions were made Tom said your rifle will be done in 45 to 60 days, I thought no way for a custom rifle(6 to 12 months seemed more like it).  I wrote the check on 7/24 and received my rifle on 9/24, there were some parts that were on backorder. The day I went to get my rifle I took my reloading and cleaning gear. Tom helped me work up a load, zero my scope and make a drop chart by shooting targets. I shot two matches with it that weekend. To say I like my rifle would be a gross understatement, it is “Bad-ass” and  has taken me to the next level as a shooter. This will not be the last TVP Custom rifle I own.

Thanks for everything Tom

Wayde B.
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Thunder Valley Precision,

For quite a while now I have been surfing the web to locate a place where I could shoot and excel in my skill level. Around home we are able to shoot and compete out to 880 yards.

I spoke with Tom Sarver and then geared up for the trip. The best thing was my 24 year old son wanted to come and shoot also, so we could shoot as partners!

We arrived, had our meet and greet, and discussed what was to be accomplished. Tom has an agenda but yet he tries to gear it towards what the individual’s goals are. I could tell from the first moment, from what was seen as far as the range and shooting stations and Tom’s demeanor, that we were in for a great time.

After checking over the equipment, we confirmed our zeros. Then it was off to the 200 – 1200 yard range. We made a log book that showed the intended verticals to use, as well as any corrections. We then logged the correct settings and set out to test them, as well as our skills, on the intimidator range. There were four positions with four targets each. The targets were all set up on mini-mountains and across valleys with challenging crosswinds. Talk about fine-tuning your setup, shooting form, and logging notes throughout the day. You couldn’t ask for a more perfect setup. Within the two days at TVP, we shot the Intimidator three times, each with different weather patterns – winds, overcast, sun and more wind! A ton of info was gathered while shooting the rounds and repeating them in the varying conditions.

Technically, we gained more knowledge as precision shooters in two days than anyone back home could gain in years of shooting. Tom also took the time to cover any type of questions thrown out, be it shooting, gun builds, load development, and reloading.

The bottom line is that we left knowing our equipment was 100% and our skill levels were excelled from what we expected.

We had a 1,600 mile trip and it was worth it. I’m looking forward to coming back to experience what Thunder Valley Precision has to offer again.

Equipment used Jeff – Barrett 338 Lapua – 5-20×50 Vortex Razor Scope
Equipment used Dustin – Remington 700 SPS ACC – 4-16×50 Vortex PST Scope

Thanks Tom,

Jeff Heeg
Dustin Heeg
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Tom,

I can’t believe it’s been over three years since my wife told me about Thunder Valley Precision. The first time I stopped out to see what it was all about you were kind enough to let me shoot the “HULK” and I was hooked. I also thought this would be good practice for ground hog hunting. Wow, was it ever! I used to think 400 yards was a long shot. After one season out at TVP I made my longest-to-date groundhog kill-shot of 1103 yards.

During my time shooting out at TVP everyone has been very kind and willing to help as well as letting me shoot their guns. Now, three years later, I have my very own TVP custom .260 AI. Thank you very much for talking to me about all the different components, calibers and the pros and cons of each. Six weeks after I decided on what I wanted, it was in my hands and is a work of art. It looks and shoots wicked. Going from my off the shelf 308, the TVP build was like going from a family station wagon to a Shelby GT. If there is going to be another build in my future, TVP would be my first choice. Thanks again for a good first-build experience and providing a great place to practice our art.

Thanks Tom,
Bounthavy Soungpradith

 

The TVP Long Range Precision Shoot Class I

Getting your DOPE.

I thought some of Tom’s prospective students might like a brief review of a beginner’s class at TVP.

I took Tom’s beginning class with another shooter in late February of 2012. Tom called and invited me to this course since he knew I wanted to take the course and he had another student with a rifle similar to mine his view is that having a shooting partner actually improves the class for both students ( and makes it a bit less expensive for each person as well) We were both shooting TVP custom rifles chambered in .260 Remington. My primary goals for this course were to get a rock solid 100 yard zero on my rifle and to develop tested bullet drop data for the ammunition I have been using (in my case 142gr smk from Southwest Ammo). I completely met my goals.

We started with the zeroing process. Both of us had previously zeroed our rifles with our muzzle brakes, but needed to re-do the process with our suppressors. We both were using Tiger Shark suppressors and it was interesting to note that the effect the suppressors had on the point of impact. My rifle shifted the point of impact down by 2 about minutes and had a little less that .25 minute windage shift. My training partner’s as best I remember shift a bit more in elevation but none in windage. Tom recommended that at a later date we switch back in forth between suppressor and muzzle brake several times to prove that the shift is constant and repeatable. His experience with Tiger Shark suppressors and the muzzle breaks he installs is that they are very repeatable, but it must be proven.

We then proceeded to the benches to develop our “come ups”. We did this off his concrete shooting benches at 100 yard increments. We used Tom’s extra special off the top of his head estimates as a starting point at 600 and 1000 yards. His estimates and very keen spotting eye allowed us to get confirming shots at these two distances very quickly.

Tom then modeled our system with ballistic software and calculated our ammo’s muzzle velocity, we created an initial drop chart in our data books. We then shot at 100 yard intervals out to 1000 yards and recorded our results.

After our initial shooting we decided it time for a little fun so we shot distance drills shooting one shot at each distance from 300 to 1000 yards at full speed. (in my case a pretty slow full speed). We were responsible to calling each others shots We both did very well until the 1000 yard target which had insolvable wind, well for me anyway. We then took our lunch break while Tom refined our ballistic model and figured our drops out to 1700 yards.

After lunch we tried our new data from the benches at the mile target, which required about 80 MOA with my rifle and 70 some with my partner’s. Well my scope only has 63 minutes of available cross hair travel in that direction so it was time to use those nifty 1 moa ticks on my reticle. I dialed in 60 minutes and held 20 minutes high on the reticle. Five shots later and even Tom couldn’t find my shots. He had me drop my point of aim by 5 MOA and he spotted the shot still over 5 MOA high. What the hell, everything had been working so well. My bad, I have a Nightforce second focal plane scope and had my magnification well below maximum, which of course meant that the hash marks were more than one minute apart. I don’t know if anyone saw me dialing my magnification back up to full value, but we had a good elevation in a couple more shots.

We then went up hill to position one of the intimidator course. We shifted to shooting prone at 100 yard increments from 900 to 1660 yards. We also thought about shooting at some of the really long range targets. I did some calculating and decided that shooting the 2000 yard target would require about 122.5 MOA which is more hold over than I have in my scope at 11x (63 in the turret and 40 moa on the reticle). I should have tried it at 5.5X, but I know I had no chance of actually spotting my own shots at that distance and magnification. Maybe I’ll give it a try next time.

We finished the day shooting the first position of the Head Hunter Course with 5 head size target ranging from 342 to 566 yards. By then we had everything dialed in pretty well. My shooting partner cleaned the stage and I got 4 of 5 with the miss not even being a 500+ yard target.

Tom has set up a progression of steps in his training classes with the student developing different skill as the classes progress. You can not have much fun shooting at TVP long ranges without a very good set of DOPE. The first class gets you a workable set of drop data for all but the most extreme ranges and would allow even that if the students wanted to take the time.

Tom presumes that the shooter is capable of holding about a MOA and the your rifle is capable of the same accuracy as a starting point for his classes. If you are not yet up to that standard (as I raise my hand) he will help you with fundamentals and will confirm your DOPE by occasionally firing a confirmation shot with your rifle. I think he’s made a good choice in his priorities. Without good DOPE shooting out beyond 600 or so yards becomes increasing futile.

I’m very pleased with the class and intend to take a second course this summer to work on other aspects of the long range game. At this point with the help of my class I understand DOPE and how to develop and use it. Despite my bobble with the scope at the mile target I understand using and setting my scope and using the reticle. I know why I might choose a second focal plane scope instead of a FFP and I know how to estimate range using the reticle. I’m also getting to be an ok shot spotter. The improvement in my shooting since starting to shoot at TVP is really quite remarkable if somewhat schizophrenic. Judged by TVP standards I’m still a rank beginner, but at my other range I’m the go-to girl for getting your scope zeroed or spotting your shots. The steel rifle targets at that range which last year were fun targets are too big and too close be any kind of challenge and I generally only shoot .22s on their 250 yard range.

During my next class I need to fix flaws in my trigger pull and work very hard on my prone position fundamentals, I have no clue of how estimate wind on a range within the complex topology of TVP (I do ok on long flat ranges) and hope to start talking through these estimates with Tom as I don’t seem able to visualize the flow of wind around and over and through TVP various hills and valleys.

Overall I couldn’t be happier with the class.
Marcy

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